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she was eight time zones away. she had surgery for her elbow, probably aching a little. she's tired. she went a little too far. you know, what the right wing does it goes too far itself. you can say something about it. but you can count on them to overdo it. >> yes. and the other thing is long term. why would you want to fight it at this point? look, the rutherford b. hayes election of 1876 is still going to be talked about. it is still talked about now and will be talked about in the future. so is bush/gore. it is not going to go away just because the secretary of state does or does not mention it to nigerians that might -- one thing we left out of this equation. those people at that town hall might really not have known the details of that story. and that, you know -- the fact that things might look bad is just as important to tell people, i think, as, you know, whether or not there is something to that connection that she implied. is there not pointlessness in the rank coming back at her about this? >> you know, they might make a
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small point but they are making a big point. so they lose out. it is like people at town hall to compare obama to hitler. you may make some point about health care reform but you go way too far, you are tuned out. moderate republicans want to have nothing to do with you because they just simply don't want to have to answer for the people on the fringe. and the -- people making the most fuss here are conservatives who it is august and are looking for something and by the way, the clintons are just such easy targets. you know, it is -- irresistible to make something big out of something little that the clintons might do wrong. >> margaret carlson of bloomberg news and "the week news" magazine. >> thanks, keith. >> previous president declared mission accomplished in iraq.
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so long until tomorrow. more details on the origins of the astroturf with bernie sanders, here is rachel maddow. >> thank you at home for staying with us for the next hour. whether or not we are going to get health care reform at last in this country depends now mostly on the united states senate. the top republican in the united states senate on health care reform is this man. >> i think the best thing to do is want to get people to think about ending life, number one, place to start. the physical life. opposed to eternal life. it ought to be done within the family and considered religious and ethical issue and not something politicians need
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restricted. >> not something politicians deal with. top republican in the senate on the issue of health care. iowa senator chuck grassley and he says what happens at the end of your life is something for -- within your family. not something politicians should deal with. big round of applause for him on that. honestly, though, can you imagine that something as important as a person's circumstances at the capital end would be something politicians would even think they have to right to comment on? let alone intervene in. can you even imagine that? >> extraordinary circumstances like this, it is wise to always err on the side of life. >> president abruptly returned from his texas ranch sunday as the crisis unfold. >> we have a moral obligation to protect and defend her. >> not been able to act quickly enough as congress to step in. >> if we do not act she will die
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of thirst. >> this is not a political issue. this is an issue about this girl's life. >> i thought it was appropriate for the federal government to protect. >> it was appropriate for the federal government, specifically for the republican party, to get involved in a private family health care decision in 2005. when terry schiavo's next of kin tried to carry out his wife's end of life wishes it was the republican party that decided that actually the government knew better. actually the politicians understood this better than that family and the government should intervene. now many of the very same people who interfered in michael and terry schiavo's decisions, the politicians that brought the end of life decisions to floor of the capitol are arguing against health care reform now on the grounds that they don't want the government to interfere and end of life decisions. what the big democratic
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government of 2009 put in the house health care reform bill was medicare funding for people who of their own volition wanted to seek living wills or counseling about end of life decisions from their doctor. and as of today, that good policy idea, the genuinely righteous previously totally noncontroversial, nonpartisan effort to put patients in control of what happens at the end of their lives is apparently off the table p senator grassley of iowa, the ranking republican on the senate finance committee, and announcing the living wills provision will be taken out of the senate's proposed health care reform bill. there may be authentic reasons that many republicans oppose reforming health care. a concern about government inserting itself into decisions about end of life matters is not one of them. that purported concern coming from the people that brought you the president of the united states cutting short his vacation in order to interfere in one family's end of life health care decision. the president who couldn't cut
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short his vacation for bin laden's determined to strike inside the u.s. but could cut short his vacation to big foot the end of life decisionmaking of michael and terry schiavo. >> joining us now is george, the attorney for schiavo. thank you for coming on the show. having out in this battle in 2005, do you feel like you are seeing something with the same people who were interfering in the schiavo's medical decision then? >> well, there are some similarities to the schiavo debate. it is a very sensitive issue. people have legitimate fears, they have legitimate concerns about that. and in the schiavo case, those
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fears and concerns were exploited for political and ideological reasons. and i think that is what we are seeing now done in that -- in an opposite way. >> of course, it has been demonized to get people to be afraid of health care reform. and now apparently this provision is out of the bill. but can you describe the utility of the kind of living will provision that's at the heart of all of this? the idea medicare would reimburse doctors if they -- if patients wanted to get living will counseling and end of life counseling from their doctors and they were already covered by medicare? >> well, this conversation between a doctor and the patient which has been so demonized in mischaracterized is very simple. you have a patient, let's say, in a terminal condition or end of stage condition, perhaps they are being admitted to a facility, hospital, nursing home, or the time comes to have the conversation. the doctor may say well, you know, if your heart stops
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beating, what do you want to have happen? do you want to be resuscitated or not? the patient says well, what's the pros and cons. the doctor may say, well, you know, if we resuscitate you, the 20% chance you will be unconscious. there's a 40% chant that you may awake but be -- severe brain damage. and there is a 40% chance you may be all right. and the patient may say well, you know, how much more time may that buy me n the patient -- the doctor may say, well, that's about four months, six months. the patient talks to his family members about it. and comes to a decision. that's the most sensible and practical thing a patient can -- and the patient and doctor can do. that empowers patients to make decisions that's right for them and their families. >> by talking about that, by characterizing that kind of conversation as a way essentially to enforce euthanasia in this country, in order to even kill people
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against their will, even tell people who are considering health care measures that they can't have those health care measures because there's -- they are not economically worthy, those are the ways what you just described has been put in the prescription of health care reform. do you think permanent damage is being done to the idea of people getting living wills? >> well, i certainly hope not. and you have to remember that propagation of fear as -- as a technique may work in the shore term but it never works in the long term. if you take the schiavo case, those interfering with decisionmaking, those that opposed the case, it was downhill for them politically after that. so, you know, i hope there is no damage that occurred. people need physicians and patients need all the help that they can get to get together and make these decisions. most people don't want to ki in
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an icu on a ventilator or with tubes in their -- tubes in their body. people would like the die at home. they would like the die in familiar surroundings with their loved ones and pain-free. but unless you tell your doctor what you want and you refuse those procedures, the default -- the default position is treatment. and you have countless americans in this country who don't talk to their doctors and they don't have that communication that get aggressive treatment at the end of the life that they don't want. and that's a tragedy. and it is a tragedy, also, that the opponents of this provision are mischaracterizing so greatly. we need a genuine conversation about end of life decisionmaking, how to help the patient and how to help the physician. the only thing that this bill does is say that pay the doctor for the conversation. >> former attorney for michael schiavo. perfectly clarifying remarks on this. thanks for helping us get through it. i really appreciate it.
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>> my pleasure. the effort to make people afraid of health care reform demonizes the previously totally noncontroversial idea of living wills. mr. felos explaining. do you think it would discourage any of these fearmongering deather folks to know for the small cost of a commercial sponsorship, rush limbaugh and rachel maddow would encourage you looking into getting a living will. rush and i have something in common. i will explain, i promise. (announcer) this is nine generations of the world's most revered luxury sedan. this is a history of over 50,000 crash-tested cars... this is the world record for longevity and endurance.
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full disclosure. in addition to this show, i have a radio show on air america. that's part of my responsibilities for my air america job i sometimes voice advertisements. which means i read copy promoting the goods of services of companies that pay radio stations or pay air america important the promotion. it is what people in talk radio do. one read i used to do was for a company that provides legal forms for a do it yourself living will. now, i also happen to believe a living will is a good thing to have so i have absolutely no qualms about having done that read for that ad once upon a time. in this fight i hesitate to call a debate about health care we are having as a country, getting a living will is being likened to murder or forced suicide or fascism. the conspiracy theory the government promoting living wills, the government has done for 20 years, is somehow now a
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secret plot to kill old people? it started, as we said many times on this show, by a woman named betsy mccoying director of a medical device company called cantell medical, genta. senior fellow at the hudson institute, right wing think tank funded by some of the biggest pharmaceutical ferms in the country. the living wills are secretly a plot to kill people myth was started by betsy mccoy. she advanced it on the pages of rupert murdoch's post and promoted it on right wing talk radio shows including one hosted by fred thompson, the actor and former presidential candidate. but once that conspiracy theory got its start, it has been popularized not by people like betsy mccoy nobody ever heard of but by sarah palin and newt gingrich and the i influential republican talk show host rush limbaugh. >> people at a certain age, certain diseases, will be deemed
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not worth the investment and they will just -- as obama said, they will give them pain pills and they won't even know what happened. >> i have given some full disclosure about my talk radio career. here's a little full disclosure about rush limbaugh's talk radio career. >> august is national make a will month. visit national will month and set aside ten minutes and go to and get started. do it for yourself, do it for your family. take control. now, legal doom is not a law firm. it was started by top attorneys to provide self-help services at your specific direction. >> yeah. talk radio is a small world. rush limbaugh and i voice ads for the same company. a company that i think does a relatively good constructive thing in the world by promoting, among other things, living wills. mr. limbaugh, on the other hand,
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has been railing on his talk radio show all month he thinks promoting living wills is a plot to -- what did he say again? >> let them loop out until they die. >> according to mr. limbaugh, living wills are a secret plot by the government to kill you, to let you loop out until you die. i don't know what loop you on means but it sounds bad. what's this mean? it means either rush limbaugh doesn't really believe the health care reform and living wills are a secret plot to kill old people conspiracy or he does believe it but for a few pesos he will tell to you look into it because it is not that bad an idea. it is not just mr. limbaugh. matt taibbi brought us the same kind of full disclosure for a conservative you might have heard of called newt gingrich. >> you are asking us to trust the government. i'm not talking about the obama administration but the
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government. to decide if we believe that the government is to be trusted. we mo people said routinely we are going to to have make decisions, you have to decide. communal standards historically is a very dangerous concept. but the bill is a thousand pages of setting up mechanisms 45shgs different ages and has all sorts of panels. you are asking us to trust turning power over to the government when they are clearly are people in america who believe in establishing euthanasia, including selective standards. >> people in the government believing in establishing euthanasia. you are asking us to trust the government about asking us to make the decisions? of course people are concerned. mr. gingrich has been as enthusiastic as any figure on the right. in claiming health care reform and its prove ig to promote people making living wills should be viewed as a secret plot to kill old people.
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just a few weeks ago, mr. gingrich, however, was all for it. praising exactly the same kind of end of life counseling plan in the pages of "the washington post" that he now demonizes. july 2 he said in "the post -- so newt gingrich no only says advanced directives, living wills, are a great empowering
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thing for patient ps and their families to control and direct care, he thinks that everyone on medicare should get them, too. you mo what? that's exactly what was proposed in the house health reform bill which gingrich denounced is a secret plot to euthanize everyone. one more here. the person who probably has done more than anyone than betsy mccoy to promote this idea of livings will as a secret plot to kill you, it is -- former past term governor sarah palin. she released a second statement on her facebook page. this one has footnotes. denouncing the living wills provision of the house health care bill and denounces it as a death panel. i regret it is also time for some full disclosure about sarah palin on this issue. in order to do that, "the rachel maddow show" is not quite proud to present governor sarah
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palin's declaration of april 16, 2008, as health care decisions day in alaska. as read by rod blagojevich because that's who we reached us. >>
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>> as read by our rod blagojevich impersonator. how do we get from advanced directives, living wills, getting their own celebratory day proclaimed in alaska by sarah palin, how do we get from there to sarah palin condemning living wills as death panels? if you or someone you know is getting on in year, here's someone like rush limbaugh or newt gingrich, or sarah palin, telling you or them that health care reform includes a plot to kill the elderly in this country, don't be afraid. b, know their record. know this. even they don't believe this bull pucky they are selling you. even they don't believe it. >> hey, it is me. water. did you know when you filter me at home i'm pretty much the same
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we now present today's greatest hits from the right wing's summer of discontent. playing every afternoon at a school gym or vfw hall near you. >> i'm here to give you a brief -- i'm here to give you a brief report, a brief report of what i have been doing. obama that said he will not sign a bill which adds to the deficit. i will not -- and i -- and i --
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i will not -- >> i would like to stay that i fully support everything that president obama is trying to do especially where health care is concerned. >> you are talking down to the american people if you think we are that stupid to accept this! >> confronted with scenes like this every day now, confronted with this as the new face of opposition to president obama, the only elected national leader of the republican party that party chairman michael steele has plumbed newly found depths of empathy. >> the american people are ticked off and are very concerned. they are not being un-american. they are being distinctly american. they are being uniquely american in expressing openly their frustration with what they hear their political leadership
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saying. >> what do you want us to do about it? they are concerned and scared. we are just responding to the fact that they are concerned and scared. why exactly are they scared? where is the scary information coming in that's scaring them so that the republican party is just reacting to the scariness of the scared people? one of the places where scary information is coming from, one of the places where town hall protests are being promoted and town hall protesters are getting their marching orders before they go, is a prays called if you surf over to, you will see that they bill themselves as the online community for patriotic citizens who are opposing the obama-led socialist agenda. right there on the front page, right at the top is the message we need your help, all caps. august recess health care blitz. what sort of information is available at for people that may want to blitz something in the august recess? well, there's this video which
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is titled obama equals hitler. the contents of which you can probably figure out based on the not at all ambiguous name and the nice shots. you want to list specifically what they say about health care, there is this helpful post. waiting lines will be long. others will die. why is this being done? back door reparations. i pray that god will strike obama dead and all who stand with him they are evil. so who runs through this if you scroll to the bottom of this website you will see it is run by something called on their about us page, you will find that grassfire is funding resistnet as part of, quote, our overall patriotic resistance efforts. which is an awfully nice thing for to do, to completely fund this website calling president obama hitler and organizing against health care sxrorm posting death threats against the president. you know.
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kind of makes me want to know more about according to tipped watchdog group public citizen, is represented by the washington, d.c., based pr firm surely and bannister public affairs. shirley is man named craig shirley. craig shirley is a very long-time republican pr operative whose resume includes the famous race baiting willie horton ad from the 1988 presidential campaign. the next time you hear republican party chairman michael steele say something like this -- >> anyone out there that says the republican party or state parties or republican activists are out there doing that are flat-out lying. they are wrong. >> flat-out lying, they are wrong. actually, they are not wrong. the willie horton ad making republican pr activist xi is the same buy thhas the obama/hitler
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website. we have been tracking the false flagging really for the entire month of august now. mainly because this sort of thing still isn't being widely reported which amazes me. this is a perfect system for the republican party. it is a constant feedback. the republican party activists stir up fear and anger on the internet. fearful, angry people go to town hall events and then republican party officials say they are just responding to that anger and have no idea where it came from. perfect cycle. rile them up with made-up stuff and then sympathize with them that are so riled. joining us now is senator bernie sanders, independent of vermont and a member of the senate health education labor and pension committee, senator sanders, thank you for coming on the show tonight. >> my pleasure. >> i know that you have two town hall events scheduled for this weekend. in watching some of the events that have unfolded, some -- way events unfolded around the country over the last couple of weeks with your senate colleagues, what are you preparing yourself for?
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>> well, i think for months those -- little differently than other places around the country. i have done hundreds and hundreds of town hall meetings from wind of the state to the sxoerpd frankly, up until now, we have had zero problems. in this state at least, people listen to other people and if they disagree they are polite about it and engage in serious discussion. and we expect, fully expect, that's what will take place this saturday. there will be large turn outthat i suspect the dialogue will be respectful. what concerns me very much about the whole business, rachel, you did a great job analyzing the whole process, is that deflects attention away from the real health care crisis this country is facing. the question we should be talking about is not the end of life phony discussion of rush limbaugh, et cetera, what we should be talking about is how it can be that this nation spent almost twice as much per capita on health care as any other nation and yet we have 46 million people uninsured, more
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underinsured and 18,000 people a year dying because they don't go to a doctor when they should. our health care outcomes are behind many of the country's. that's the kind of debate that we should be having. not the issue of does barack obama want to kill off the old people or the disabled? that's insane. and what we have got to do is put forward a progressive health care plan. we have got to rally our base. the people who don't have health insurance. the small business people who can't afford health insurance for their workers and american people who know that there is something wrong. when our system is so far behind many other countries. >> if it is harder to rile with hope than it is to rile them with fear, it may be hard go from base versus base, activist versus activist. honestly, shouting person versus shouting person. some of these events. in terms of competition for the overawl narrative around health
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care. do you think that the people who are saying -- who are promoting these mids, the president does want to kill old people, crazy things about health care reform, do you think that they should just be ignored? is it worth debunking them or mocking them? >> no. i think what you are doing and all of us have to do, we have to call a lie a lie and they lie a whole lot of times and we have to hold the republican party and the officials who support these lies accountable. but that's not enough. what we need to do is do what obama did during his very brilliant campaign. and that is rally tens of millions of people to stand up and say that health care is the civil rights issue of the moment. it is not acceptable. that a million people a year, this year, are going to go bankruptcy because of medically related costs. we need to do grass roots organizing. i will tell you what else we need to do. we need to understand that it is very, very hard for the president or anybody else to take on not just the republican
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party, that's the easy part. to take on all of right-wing talk radio which covers 90% of talk show hosts and a whole fox network which is nothing more than an arm of the republican party, and the democrats got to think long term. why is there not a progressive television network? were aren't we supporting good and effective personalities on radio as well as building up the network there. so that we can have that kind of political consciousness raising that the republicans, in fact are doing so well now. >> senator bernie sanders, independent of vermont. thank you very much for your time tonight. good luck with your town hall meetings this weekend. >> thank you. coming up, a reporting on the money behind many of the anti-health reform shouter moms seems to have touched a nerve with a lobbying firm run by former republican congressman dick armey. touching a nerve is turning out to be a specialty around here. you will want to stay tuned for this.
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joins us to tell us what's being done to try to get him out. honestly, i hate we are developing almost a template for how to cover these journalists in jail for no reason other than doing his or her job stories. we take lot of freedoms for granted. freedom of the press, really not being taken for granted. especially not this year. dramatic story coming up. first, time for a couple of holy mackerel stories. "the new york times" completed et cetera two-part series today on the history of the bush administration's torture program. this is no the big picture stuff about why we were torturing people, not the whose idea was it stuff, it is not even the how did they think they would get away with it stuff. what they reported on the past two days is actually the small stuff. really detailed reporting. yesterday on the two guys that were paid millions of dollars to design the how-to-instructions for torture. these are the guys that wrote up quite literally the blow-by-blow for how americans should torture
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prisoners during the bush administration. we now know bruce justin and jim mitchell had never in their entire lives ever done a single interrogation when the geniuses in the bush administration decided to pay them to overrule every experienced interrogator in the u.s. government so they could implement their made-up reverse engineered get a false confession torture program. jim mitchell's academic expertise was comparing the effects of diet and exercise for combating hypertension. that didn't stop him from getting contract to design the torture program. and in part two of the series, we learned today of another aspect of torture program that was not only toxic to our values, counter strategic in terms of our national security, but potentially dangerous in terms of the safety of americans around the world, today we learned of another aspect of the torture program that was not just strategically and morally bankrupt but was actually just pathetic. when the bush administration decided that the cia should build secret prisons in other
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countries to administration ste its torture programs, they turned to a cia operator named dusty fogonto build those prisons. the name dusty foggo may be familiar to you because he is in prison. pleaded guilty to giving top dollar cia contracts to a buddy of his who repaid the favor by taking dusty on really expensive vacations, paying for some of dusty's rather lavish living expenses, and by promising dusty a job once he was out of the cia. dusty's friend is a guy named brent wilkes. that name may also be familiar to you because he's also in prison right now for bribing republican congressman duke cunningham. corrupt imprisoned dusty doinggo and corrupt imprisoned contractor friend wilkes are the guy it is bush administration hired to build and equip their secret torture prison in romania and morocco and some unnamed other former eastern bloc city. i guess not bad enough, we have
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to live with the fact the last president set up a torture program for the united states, we also have to live with the fact that it was pa thetcally and horrendously embarrassingly corrupt. is it wrong to have expected higher standards from my government's secret prison and torture program? finally, we have been talking about the extent to which the angry protests that congressional town halls on health care are being organized and promoted by both the republican party and corporate funded republican allied beltway pr and lobbying firms. naturally, that brought us to a group of freedom works. a grassroots group that claimed credit for organizing and promoting town hall protests. freedom works is shared by -- reformer republican house majority leader dick armey. with whom i will be appearing on "meet the press" this sunday. mr. armey is a senior policy adviser at dla piper which happens to represent a bunch of companies in the health care industry. after we discussed freedom works
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and mr. armey and dla pipe other the show a couple of days ago we will lucky enough to obtain this internal piper memo. which was sent out by the lobbying firm's joint chairman to all of the firm's employees.
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we have contacted news outlets to set the record straight and urge correction of the inaccurate reports. for the record, we have checked and no one from the lobbying firm dla piper has contacted me or anyone else on had show by e-mail or fax or telephone or carrier pigeon or smoke signal. if anyone from dla pipe wore like to talk to us and ex-main how the firm is encouraging responsible national debate and strongly opposing disrupting the national debate about health care reform while its senior policy adviser is also running freedom works which has been putting its officials on tv to brag about blowing up town hall events, their words, in the mine, and calling on those who attend those town halls to be, and i quote, aggressive, we here at the show would love to hear that explanation. we would love to hear from you, honestly. or you can keep communicating via internal memo to your own employees who will then leak it
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"newsweek" isn't amnesty international. they are not even pacifica. they are not as a crusading cause indoor same publication. but free maziar bahari is their cause now. the government of iran no only locked him up for being "newsweek's" reporter, they have also forced him into a show trial. weekends ago bahari was one of 100 journalists and activists and opposition figures and iranians with dual citizenship, put on trial in one big group trial and charged with helping foreigners undermine the government of iran. by somehow orchestrating this massive anti-government protests that have royaled iran stins disputed elections in june. about pl bahari was even brought out solo on speak to reporters on the sidelines of that show trial and gave what a "new york times" account described as a chilling lecture to those reporters on the media's role in
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revolution. it is chilling, of course, because it is forced. bahari is a reporter and not an agent of any foreign power. he was doing his job. as a professional objective journalist, one accredited by the iranian government itself to cover the elections in iran and the reactions to them. "newsweek" and mr. bahari's family and supporters have now made the difficult decision to take their efforts to have him freed from prison public. they are hoping what they have not been able to accomplish through back channel efforts and client diplomacy might be accomplished if enough people know about this and are moved to speak out to free bahari. joining us now is mr. bahari's wife. she joins us from london. thanks very much for agreeing to talk with us. >> thank you. >> first of all, i don't know you and i hope you don't mind me asking because it is personal. do i want to ask just how you
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are doing, how you and your family are holding up through all of this. >> holding up through all of this. >> it's a very difficult time, one i could never have imagined would ever be like this, ever. i'm 6 1/2 months pregnant and so i just have to keep positive always and it's such a struggle to remain always with hopes and to get through this time. >> have you been able to be in touch with maziar at all or has anybody in your family been able to be in touch with him? >> maziar's mother has spoken very briefly with maziar a few times during the last month and a half. maziar's mother was able to see maziar in the prison with the maziar's brother-in-law, but i haven't had any details about that meeting, other than that it was very brief and i think
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maziar said he was okay. other than that, i've not spoken to maziar at all, not been able to meet with him. >> i know that the semi-official news agency in iran a week or so ago released some photos of him and some of the other people with dual citizenship who they have been holding. how did he look to you when you saw him in those photos, just compared to how you know him before he left for this trip? >> well, before the trip, maziar looked healthy, he looked happy. and when i saw the photo of him, as soon as it popped up on to my screen, i burst into tears and was inconsolable, because he looked so gaunt and unhappy. he just didn't look like the same person. it broke my heart. >> in terms of what he is
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accused of, the iranian government, of course, accuses him of helping foment revolution and endangering iran's national security. the iranian media quotes him as having stated as a journalist and a member of this great western capitalism machine, he said he had either blindly or on purpose participated in projecting doubts and promoting a color revolution. does that sound like anything he would say of his own free will? >> absolutely not. i mean -- excuse me, maziar is incredibly fair minded. his reporting has always been very balanced. it's certainly not something he would ever say at all of his own free will. maziar is known and respected for his balanced work, and even in iran, has always been given appropriate accreditation throughout his long career for working in iran. and it's just preposterous now,
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that they can say that he's been a danger to national security, when he was simply doing his job in the fair way he's always done it. >> one last question for you. if people watching this now are moved to try to help, i know that you, other members of your family, supporters, "newsweek" and others have decided that it's in his best interest, that there be a public campaign to try to free him. if people are moved to try to help, what do you suggest that people do? >> i think the easiest way is to go to the website, and there's a page on that for petitions, there's also a page on that for italian petition. the petitions are online and you can just join the petition and also just get in contact, as well, by the website, if anyone has any ideas on how to promote the awareness of maziar's
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plight. >> paol a, thanks so much. >> you can keep up to date on mazari's case at the magic's in the mix. my favorite part? eating it. honey bunches of oats. taste the joy we put in every spoonful.
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